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Justin Ross's avatar

Really good analogies in here. You use memable ideas to get your point across about memeable ideas - how meta of you.

I think that's why the right has reacted so strongly to the left in the past ten years - the left became a party of pure theory, pure thought, pure arrogant moralizing, and the right felt that the whole country had become all pulpit. As you said, they stopped attending. They felt abandoned.

The best vehicle for culture isn't moralizing or "expertise" - it's stories. And that's why the folksy side doesn't like when it hears a negative story about itself. It needs a good story to live up to, not one where it's the villain and needs to be punished. Who the hell would want to hear that story?

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Patricia Munro's avatar

Well, this one doesn't land well, largely because your starting assumptions ignore a--to use the technical term--whole lotta stuff.

Yes, Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism are the big three in terms of numbers, but you make a big jump in the reasons for that. Christianity made the leap from a charismatic leader to a full-fledged religion/state with Constantine (see Constantine's Sword for the deep dive). That gave it the structure and numbers that enabled it to grow. It is also a universalizing religion, which means that converting others is part of its DNA.

Islam is also universalizing and melds a charismatic leader to an existing (albeit very different) societal structure.

So, irrespective of a compelling narrative and set of core beliefs, both those religions are deeply investing in growing. And were not shy about using force to do so.

Hinduism is another story. It is an ethnic religion that exists in a particular region with a particular people that had, in effect, thousands of years to develop organically. (I will note that it is one of four Dharmic religions, the others being Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism.)

So lumping the three together on the basis of size ignores the differences in geography that led to the relative isolation of Southeast Asia.

Maintaining core values, ethics, practices while still having the flexibility to change is a necessity for any society/religion to survive for very long. Both Durkheim's definition of religion and Ninian Smart's more extended version enable a better analysis of what makes societies succeed over time or fail.

Finally, if having both a compelling and simple story along with lots of intellectual chatter led to large numbers of adherents, Judaism would win hands down. The Jewish core narrative of slavery to freedom is compelling and has been used to inspire enslaved people in the US and liberation theology in South America. And if you want intellectual debate--there's a reason people say "two Jews, three opinions." And yet, world Jewish population is all of 15 million.

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