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1st, good essay. The only reason I'm writing this screed is because it is one of the few pieces on Substack I've found that didn't make me want to blow my brains out. Now, on to the "criticism"

WTF, "there’s nothing noble about the act of consumption itself", that's not "the most potent part of that 90s counterculture". The most potent part of the 90s counterculture, the underlying idea behind the concept of "selling out", is what you highlighted in the beginning. That "commercial success and artistic integrity are so obviously at odds with one another".

If there's nothing "noble" about consumption, then why is there anything "ignoble" about it. No, you are trying to argue that we need to be more noble about our consumption, that we shouldn't reward the pop stars who only stand for capital. That's fine, but you see, the problem isn't that we view consumption as moral, the point of this piece is that we've done that since the 90s, only the valence has flipped.

Look, nobody believes in the concept of selling out anymore, partially because they don't think commercial success and artistic integrity are that much at odds (obviously you don't, you've got this newsletter!). But also, because most people don't believe much in artistic integrity. Why is artistic integrity a good thing? Your tagline is, "Find what's true and make it useful". You can argue artistic integrity is about finding truth. But making it useful? That's where you dip into commercial success. Art isn't about use, and thinking in this manner can degrade it.

But let alone artistic integrity, most people don't believe much in integrity full stop. The underlying ethos of "getting the bag", I think you're wrong, that the riches of the famous are "incidental" to their fame. The whole point of being famous, is that you can convert this into dollars. That's the idea. If you couldn't do this, being famous would be much less appealing. We are still a money-obsessed culture, there's a reason Mr. Beast's videos so often have a dollar amount in the title.

The other thing, is that most of pop culture, most of culture, is geared towards children and teens, since that is where the most attention is available. Where you complain about our awful culture, are you sure it's not just you getting old? But more importantly, this means that instead of convincing sober older "readers" to change our culture, where you're more often than not preaching to the choir, you have to convince younger "watchers" to change the culture.

Anyways, good piece, I don't see selling out coming back, because there is no real way to implement it, those who sell out will spread further, and even if we reintegrate the culture, I think Pearl Jam was selling out, so there's really no winning. If you make your music available to be heard, for a price, are you not selling out? Or is it only selling out if you're making "too much" money. I think the world will be much richer in the future than it is right now, and so it is impossible to sell out in our present age, after all, Jeff Bezos is a miser compared to the average person in 2100. One can dream

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Somewhat tangential to the discussion about burning disco records: I watched a documentary about the Bee Gees and Barry Gibb believes that the reason the *Saturday Night Fever* soundtrack did so well is because the disco music was done by white guys. He believes racism was a key factor in the "disco sucks" movement, and it's hard to argue, particularly when you've already stated here that only "white guys with guitars" in rock music count as authentic. It's essentially the same argument black people have made about Elvis Presley stealing black music and making it palatable to a white audience. Both rocketed to stardom (or in the case of the Bee Gees, had a major comeback) with music originated by black/latino artists.

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